Oh well, has been short time of waiting for 0.2.2 now, right? Sure, not as long as we’re waited for 0.2 at all, but I guess 0.2.2 isn’t really what I expected.
To summarize it to a point from my own experiences/thoughts:
- Server crashes more often for no appearant reason, using code that worked fine in 0.2.1.
- Game crashes more often - 0.2.2 game crashes are the only ones that’ve happened to me for a long time, I’ve played (almost) crash-free before.
- Game lags a lot - again, was fine with 0.2.1
- synched Head Movements… I don’t see the point of that, that’s a simple feature that does like nothing to the Gameplay, it’s just others see were you look - I called SA:MP fine without that also.
- Wrapped SendClientMessages are not needed, the authors of a game mode or filterscript might’ve taken into consideration to write long lines with just more info
- I really don’t care if name tags can or can not be seen through walls
- SQLite has no reason to be built in in the server, a plugin for that would be my choice. And I’ve no SQLite server yet, why should I? The MySQL plugin works fine.
- Name Tag draw distance can be set by the server? Why would you want to change that, nametags are fine as they were with 0.2.1, at least I wouldn’t see why you’ve need to change that.
- From what I’ve read from other server_logs, SAC, SA:MP’s Anti-Cheat, is still depending on the master server way too much. I don’t know if in between there’s a way to save the anticheat-file locally, if not this is a great missed feature I would’ve a lot rather welcome than synched Head Movement
The other stuff, for example netcode fixes, consuming less bandwith etc. - basically the, for me, useful things are of course great, but there’s some shadow of crashes about it. If the first 3 things wouldn’t be, I’ve lot less to complain, they’re rather making the big deal.
I’ve had some recent discussions about this with various people, let’s share some of the opinions I got…
#sa-mp.scripting, started at Aug 29 23:06:32
«mabako» bad sa:mp coders, you forgot to put in the back number plate *rolls off*
«Alex» and mabako: I’m very sorry we missed that highly minor feature barely anyone notices, if you think you can do a better job go for it
«mabako» was just looking at that post in the forums
«mabako» imo 0.2.2 comes with heck of not needed stuff… especially text wrapping to new lines isn’t neccessary, and the kill icons not having a black background box
«breadfish» i agree
«Alex» mabako as I said before when you write a better one you can complain
«krisk» Allways look at the bright side, for a couple of hours ago we where moaning about when 0.2.2 is out, and now you actually moan about what’s in it..
«Alex» some people are already on about 0.3, you’re all ungrateful and stuck up!
«mabako» sure Sir, let’s wait for 0.3, I’m not expecting that release to happen before october 2008.
«Alex» you can’t shut up for one minute and realise that this is free
«krisk» mabako - For your info, the dev team have worked their ass of to make this release to get rid of the crash programs and hackers etc. and now you’re just disrespectful and moaning about the release they’ve just made, seriously thing about it.
«breadfish» …
Oh well, first line is signed with some irony at the end, highly unnoticeable.
I always knew I can be “all ungrateful and stuck up!” - well, I wasn’t after 0.1, 0.2, 0.2.0 and 0.2.1(r2), this could’ve had a reason. And to add, I never said I’ve never said I’m disrespectful about fix to those crashing programs, neither can I read from the above quote I was moaning about that - I was rather on about the stuff that has been implented now, because I can’t believe that I waited that long for those features which are, again, in my opinion, unneeded, I would be completely happy if all 0.2.1 r2 bugs would’ve just been fixed and it’d be sold as 0.2.1 r3. But this isn’t the case, the SA:MP team added features that’re not needed, and this is, like you can see from the other quotes, not only MY personal opinion.
And well, sure it’s free, financed by all that advertising on the forum which I’ve NEVER clicked since it’s in the first post, in the last post and above the thread view, it’s in my opinion just too annoying - and the increasing amount of ads shows to me, there IS some money earned with it, so why shouldn’t they try to get more… To be honest, I would rather spend, not 50€, but 10 to 20€ to get the forums ad-free for me. The team won’t earn now anything from me anyway, it’s just me getting annoyed.
Jolteon, Aug 29 too.
«Jolteon» Yea, that is true, alot of stuff is changed for the wrong (IMO)
#mn, started at Aug 30 01:03:37
«mabako» damospiderman » http://paste.mabako.net/11
«damospiderman» oh i’m here
«damospiderman» I think sa-mp 0.2.2 looks and feels too cheap now
«damospiderman» with all the chat window crap
«damospiderman» looks like i just installed a clean install of windows or something
«damospiderman» with all the bubbly crap
«damospiderman» ahh i just read the paste bin
hiker, started at Aug 30 18:54:34 2007
«hiker» is your server crashy now?
«mabako» no
«mabako» I’ve just removed it
«hiker» ok… I just saw Mount’s comment and let you know that my server was crashy cuz of the time-change function
«hiker» I needed to remove it now working on a usable one…
«mabako» pfff… there’s much that could crash
«mabako» I managed to crash my local server + client with a nearly empty script :<
«hiker» ://
«mabako» that’s why i probably won’t do any public script for 0.2.2
«mabako» too crashy, too much not needed functions (scrolling chatbox, head movements)
«hiker» well, I’m getting disapointed of all of it now
«hiker» yea…
«mabako» ive talked with some other guys, couldnt find one who is really happy with 0.2.2
«hiker» I really believe that, but meh… change needed (?) well I didn’t feel this by CS, it’s been on for years and still alive
«hiker» but anyway, at least I got to know some excellent ppl like you and some others…
Reading this forum topic kind of underlines what I’m saying, especially related crashes.
So right, you could’ve seen what I wanted to tell you, if you’d read carefully. Just to quote myself, in my opinion, 0.2.2 is a step backwards from the nice, more stable, crash-free 0.2.1 (click). SA:MP Host will continue hosting servers, of course it’s your choice to keep 0.2.1 or go with 0.2.2. I’ve anyway just closed my server, since a lot of people decide the way newer is better - it had like nearly no players before, and it won’t have any now.
Oh, it seems I need to fully agree with this statement…
From what I can tell based on my own point of view, this seems to be fully true, I wouldn’t agree with this quote after 0.2.1, but well, seems some things changed a bit.
Update Aug 31, 01:25 somewhen: Seems R2 CLIENT has been release, let’s see what changes.
cheers
mabako